Thursday, March 21, 2019

Daniel's 70th week part 3 and 1/2


Preterist Problems interpreting Prophecy 

The main question of biblical eschatology comes back to our foundational issue of how to interpret the scripture. The vast majority of examples in scripture of biblical writers quoting other biblical writers is understood literally at face value and not metaphorical. We see this distinction made by Jesus himself here: 

Matthew 17:10-13 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? [11] And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. [12] But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. [13] Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

Notice here that Jesus positively affirmed what the disciples understood the scribes to be teaching in a literal manner. Just as they knew literally where Christ would be born. “And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet, And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.” (Mt.2:5-6) So, indeed Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. This is what Malachi said in 4:5-6 “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord…” The scribes understood this literally as it was written, and Jesus confirms this- “Elias truly shall first come”. Then, in addition to this he uses a figure or type of this coming in the person of John the Baptist (Mt.11:14-5, Mk.1:2-3). John was not literally Elijah (any more than William Branham was), as he himself affirmed. “And they asked  him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.” (Jn.1:21) However he would go before Christ “in the spirit and power of Elias” (Lk.1:17) preparing the way of the LORD (Mal.3:1, 4:5-6). The Jews were very acquainted with similitudes and shadows and figures; with God speaking in divers manners in times past (Heb.1:1, Hos.12:10, 1:2, 3:1, Ezek.4, Jer.13:7-11, Isaiah 20:2-5, 5:7) and should have had ears to hear.


 We see the New Testament writers also making applications of the Old Testament scriptures to us while they did not clearly apply to Gentiles when they were written- Matt.6:29, Rom.4:23, 11:2-5, 15:4, 1 Cor.9:9, 10:11, 2 Cor.6:17-7:1, 11:3, 1 Tim.5:17-18, Heb.11, James 5:16-17, 1 Pet.3:6, 2 Pet.2:4-6, 15, 1 Jn.3:12, Jude 5-7, 11. Other ways would be through allegories (Gal.4:24-31) figures, and shadows (Acts 10:12-15, 28, Rom.5:14, 1 Cor.4:6, 10:3-4, 2 Cor.3:13-18, Col.2:16-17, Heb. 7:15, 8:5, 9:9, 24, 11:19, 1 Pet.3:21).


This leads us to examine the ways the scriptures are understood and interpreted. Consider for example, what the New Testament says about Abraham’s son Isaac. We see Isaac referred to in the literal, physical, historical sense as the offspring and literal physical seed of Abraham (Mt. 1:2, Lk.3:34, Ac.7:8, Heb.11:17-8); which is exactly how you would understand it when reading the story in Genesis. But we also see Isaac as a child of promise and representing all the children of Abraham by faith (Rom.9:7-8, 4:16). And we see Isaac representing in an allegory, the new covenant (Gal.4:21-31); and also representing Christ (Gal.3:16, 29) in figures (Heb.11:18-9). Does the use of the story of Isaac in an allegory mean that we should not interpret the Old Testament story of Isaac literally and conclude he was not a real person? No, we take both interpretations. Just like we see here:


Matt.2:15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
Hosea 11:1 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.


Both Christ and Israel have applications from this passage, but they do not nullify each other. But this is the issue preterists have interpreting the scriptures. They nullify the literal instead of allowing for both. They conclude the church replaced Israel because Paul makes a spiritual application of children of promise as Israel. Paul started Romans 9 referring to literal physical descendants of Abraham. Notice v3-5 “For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.” Very clear. Next however he moves to the spiritual non-literal application in v6 “For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.” (v6-8) We should not conclude the replacement of literal Israel for the spiritual seed of Abraham anymore than denying the literal Isaac for the “children of promise”. We take both passages to be true with neither disannulling the other. But you must know the literal interpretation before you can utilize figures and types and allegories. This is how preterists err not knowing the scriptures.



Now, once we understand this and have a grasp of the literal interpretations of prophecies we can begin to see types and figures and shadows opening to us. Let’s work out the figures and patterns the Lord gave us:
We know baptism is a figure (1 Pt.3:21) of God’s wrath as in Noah’s day. We know Israel as a son of God is a figure of Christ the Son of God. So, we see John baptizing Jesus and the Spirit descending upon him. The pattern pointing to Israel suffering the wrath of God (law worketh wrath- Rom.4:15, the law prophesied till John- Mt.11:13) and coming through to have his spirit poured out upon them (Joel 2:28, Zech.12:10, Isa.44:3-5). Then we see the kingdom of God manifested in Israel (Mt. 3:2,10, Mt.11:5, Lk.4:18-9) and the devil cast out of the land (Zech.13:2, Mt.12:28, Lk.10:19-20).


Also, we see Christ suffering the wrath of God on the cross and rising from the dead which in a pattern has Israel suffering God’s punishment
(chastisement not propitiatory) followed by their dead rising. (Mt.27:45-53, Jesus drank the cup God will pour out unto the wicked at that day- Jer.25:15-17, 27-28, Mt.26:39, Rev.14:10). If we press the pattern further Judas can be a figure as the son of perdition betraying Christ in the ‘midst of the week’ (Jn.13:26-7, 17:12, 6:70, 2 Thes.2:3 & Jn.17:12, Dan.9:27). We further see "The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD and against his anointed..." Psa.2:2, w/Act.4:25-7. When he died the land was covered in darkness (Mt 27:45) and there was an earthquake (Matt.27:51, Rev.16:18). We then see the Jews returning to Israel and Jerusalem and the Spirit being poured out upon them (Ac.2) and they are speaking a pure language. (Zeph.3:9) And Christ sits upon the throne (of God not David- Ac.2:33-5).
We can see figures and patterns in the church age also. In the time of the Gentile gathering we see some references to the church as in the millennial reign and others verses as though we are in the tribulation period. Look first at the church in figure as in the tribulation:


Are in the last days- 1 Jn.2:18, Ac.2:17, Jam.5:3, Jude 18
Spirit of antichrist now operating- 1 Jn.2:18, 4:3, 2 Thes.2:7
Are in tribulation- Jn.16:33, Ac.14:22, Rom.5:3, 1 Pt.4:12, Rev.1:9
Must endure to the end (of our faith) 1 Pt.1:9, Heb.3:6, 6:11, 2 Cor.1:13
The end of all things is at hand- 1 Pt.4:7, Rom.13:12, Rev.1:1-3, Phil.4:5
Looking for the appearing of Christ- 1 Th.1:10, 4:17, 5:1-2, Tit.2:13, Jam.5:8-9



Also, in figure the church is in the millennial reign:
Already resurrected- Eph.2:1, Rom.6:4-11, 8:11, Col.2:12, 3:1
Powers of the world to come- Heb.6:5, 2:4, 13, Isa.8:18
Already overcome- 1 Jn.4:4, 5:4-5
Seated with him in him in his throne- Eph.2:6
Devil is destroyed- Heb.2:14, Jn.12:31, 1 Jn.3:8
Tabernacle of David raised up-
Act.15:16-17, Amos 9:11-2


Monday, March 18, 2019

Daniel's 70th week part 2


What is important to stress again is that the 70 weeks are for “thy people and upon thy holy city”. Not in the destruction of Israel and Jerusalem forever as we previously learned but their restoration. And it is 70 whole weeks of years, not 69 and a half with 3.5 years left over to try and stick somewhere. Not 70 weeks of years and then an additional 40 years to bring us to 70 A.D. to seal up the vision and prophecy (Lk.21:20-2). When we consider so many preterist and partial preterist interpretations of Daniel 9:24-7 they have the Messiah cut off after 69 weeks (seven weeks and threescore and two weeks) of years plus 3.5 years, and not just when the 69 weeks are full. When the scriptures state “after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off” they understand this to mean ‘after threescore and two weeks and in the midst of the 70th week shall Messiah be cut off’. God was trying to indicate that the Christ would be cut off when the 69 weeks of years or 483 complete years are come to the full. The death of the Messiah the Prince completed or fulfilled the 483 years and marked the end of 69 weeks.

 Our preterist interpreters are proficient at stating that since 70 is after 69 when God indicates that Messiah is cut off after 69 weeks he must mean 69 and one half of the 70th week. But 70 weeks means complete and full 490 years, as does 69 weeks means a full and complete 483 years. Why not just mean by ‘after 69 weeks’ when the 69 weeks are complete? Well because there is a final week to pigeonhole somewhere and there is a ‘midst of the week’ event in verse 27 that leaves them with nothing obvious to do with the last 3 and a half years. Especially since they think the prophecies were all fulfilled at the cross and 40 years after but not after 70 weeks as the passage indicates. And God is very literal here in spite of some preterist attempts to make practically all prophecies figurative and metaphorical. The Holy Ghost gave us no uncertain terms regarding the literal nature of the final 3.5 years. He called it the “midst of the week” in Daniel 9:27, and emphasized this further in Daniel 7:25 and 12:7 as “time, times and an half” or “time, times, and the dividing of time.” In John’s vision which was to assist in opening Daniels words (12:4 w/ Rev.22:10,7, 1:3) we also find “a time, and times, and half a time” (12:14). But to further emphasize the literal numbering of years he tells us these are “forty and two months” (11:2, 13:5) comprised of “a thousand two hundred and threescore days” (11:3, 12:6). Again, what else could the Lord say to indicate he means literal 360 day years?

 Rather inconveniently for the preterist this final 3.5 years of Daniels 70th final week is the most prophetically significant in scripture as it is referenced so frequently, comprising much of the book of Revelation. Oddly they have sidelined the final 3.5 years as completing the vision and prophecy for a 40 year later (a gap?) event of 70 A.D. Yet they arbitrarily assert that this final 3.5 years was completed after Stephen was stoned in Acts 7, or it was 3.5 years of Christians evangelizing the Jews. But even then, this final 3.5 years did not bring to pass all the things the man Gabriel told Daniel according to they, themselves. They believe some 40 years after the angel’s words were fulfilled, in 70 A.D. that “these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.” (Lk.21:22)

 The scripture shows us that “the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined”. (Dan.9:26) If we consider Daniel 8 regarding this same event, we see “a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land” (v9) which “magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down”. (v11) “And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.” (v12) Here the prince that shall come is the little horn and he and his people or the “host given him” shall take away the daily sacrifice and cast down the sanctuary along with casting down the truth to the ground. They have defiled by casting down the dwelling place of thy name to the ground (Psa.74:7). Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision. (8:17) Obviously, this is not the Lord Jesus Christ and his people, nor did this happen immediately after Christ died for our sins and rose from the dead or in the remaining 3.5 years of their interpretation.

 Chapter 11 of Daniel also helps us as we learn this prince, the little horn, this vile person (11:21) who shall confirm the covenant for one week (not in the beginning of the week- but for one week 9:27) shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease because “his heart shall be against the holy covenant” (v28) and he shall “have indignation against the holy covenant” (v30). So, the people of the prince or the host given him “against the daily sacrifice” shall “have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant” (v30, Rom.7:12) and “they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.” This is what Jesus referred to (Matt. 24:15-16, Mk.13:14) as yet to come. What becomes manifest to us from these passages is that an abomination (Deut.7:25-6, 27:15, 29:17, 1 Kin. 11:5, 7, 2 Kin.23:13, Isa.44:19) or an idol is set up in the sanctuary. Notice Marks words “when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not”. (13:14) Also Daniel records "the abomination that maketh desolate" is "set up"(12:11); and Revelation records that men “worship the beast and his image” (14:9-11). It appears that he will follow the pride of Nebuchadnezzar who set up an image for all to worship alone, making opportunity for the 3 Hebrews to do exploits. (Dan.3) Perhaps this image that is set up in the temple is the one that is supernaturally animated by the power of Satan. (Rev.13:14-5, 2 Thess.2:3-10- Perhaps Rev.13:15 is how the image makes desolate the city and sanctuary. Maybe the miracle of the creation of man is mimicked as he shows "himself that he is God.")

 Another clue for us is given in Daniel 12. When asked "How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?" (v6) The angel, as if to make sure we understand the literal nature of these 360 day years, unambiguously and emphatically "held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and a half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished".(v7) An interesting prophetic warning is found in Leviticus 26- "I will punish you seven times more for your sins. And I will break the pride of your power;" (18-9,21,24) This will end the 70th week of years and finish all these things. 

 This is in perfect agreement with chapter 7 of Daniel where we find that horn (v8, 20, 8:9) making war with the saints and who prevailed against them (v21). This would be the same beast in Revelation given power to continue 42 months, and to make war with the saints and to overcome them. (Rev.13:7) Daniel continues that this beast "shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time." (Dan.7:25) Here in the beginning of this last 3.5 years is the sanctuary and the host trodden under foot (Dan.8:13), when the people of the prince destroy the city and the sanctuary in the midst of the week of years (Dan.9:27); to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. (12:7) Revelation 11 also bears this out as the Gentiles tread the holy city under foot forty and two months. (v2-3) This continues against thy people and thy holy city to try them and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end (Dan.11:35)- that is the end of the 70th week of years.

 Now, obviously this does not fit the preterists unscriptural assertions as these things did not happen in the midst of the final week nor did any of the proceeding prophecies follow the remaining 3.5 years. No covenant was confirmed by Jesus for one week (again- not in the beginning of the week, but for one week!). Neither Jesus nor his people stopped the Jewish sacrifices in the sanctuary (but they continued another 40 years approximately) nor destroyed it along with Jerusalem; neither did anyone else in the midst of the week or in the remaining 42 months/1260 days. There was no abomination set up in the sanctuary which occurred at this time, and nobody fled into the wilderness. And needless to say, in the midst of this week of years there was not great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to that same time (Matt.24:15-21). Also needless to say, there was not the resurrection of the just (Dan.12:1-3) and Daniel did not stand in his lot at the end of the days of the 70th week. (12:13) Neither will adding 40 years help the preterists impasse.

 Preterists think us futurists are deceived by Satan, who in their theology happens to be currently bound from deceiving the nations. I guess this gives him excessive time to tinker in futurists eschatology. All this aside it is extremely difficult to take preterist eschatology as serious bible study.



Part 3



Saturday, March 16, 2019

Daniel's 70th week part 1


Dan.9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. (v25) Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. (v26) And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. (v27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


  When we talk about ‘the end’ of the world and ‘the last’ days, we need to be guided by the scriptures as to what this is relative to. The last days are in the rubric of Israel’s conversion to Jesus Christ. The last days of Israel’s chastening, conversion and restoration of the kingdom; the last days of Daniels 70th week. (Gen.49:1, Isa.2:2, Mic.4:1,Acts 2:17 w/Joel 2:28-32, 2 Tim.3:1, Deut.4:30)

  Thy people and thy holy city will be reconciled and brought into everlasting righteousness after 70 weeks (year weeks not day weeks- Gen.29:27-8, Lv.25:1-8). This was not manifested at the cross which occurred after 69 weeks (not after 70 weeks), although it will be a direct result of the cross and resurrection of Jesus Christ. But as Daniel revealed “after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself” (v26). There is one more week determined upon thy people and thy holy city before these things are brought to pass upon thy people and upon thy holy city. Jesus was not the “prince that shall come” after the Messiah was cut off (Jn. 5:43); otherwise you have Christians as “the people of the prince” who destroy Jerusalem 3.5 years after the covenant was confirmed during the last week of years. Notice this was not to occur some 40 years later at 70 A.D., rather three and a half years before Daniels 70 weeks were complete. Daniel’s timeline mysteriously stopped when Messiah the Prince was cut off (when 69 weeks were full), leaving yet one week of years. That these things were hidden from Israel should not be a mystery to us however. Consider what Daniel was told directly regarding his prophecies:

Dan.12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. (v7) And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. (v8) And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? (v9) And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

 Jesus even told the Jewish disciples “When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.” (Ac.1:6-7) Apparently, it wasn't as obvious as preterists project, in that the restoration of Israel ("thy people") would not be after the next 3.5 years. The disciples were going to preach the gospel of Christ to the uttermost parts of the earth (v8) and teach all nations the words of Christ (Mt.28:19-20,Mk.16:15) but they were not immediately revealed some things (Jn.16:12-13). Part of the mystery kept hidden to Daniel and the Old Testament prophets was Jerusalem (Lk.19:41-2, Mt.23:37-8) and the Jewish nation being temporarily cut off (Rom.11:7,17,19) will allow for the fulness of the Gentiles to come to Christ (Rom.11:11-25). This was revealed primarily by the apostle to the Gentiles (Rom.11:13, 25-28) and hard to understand for a Jewish mindset (Acts 10- 11:1-18, Chapter 15). Peter signifies that Paul’s writings are prone to be twisted and corrupted:

2 Pet. 3:15-6 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Read Paul’s own words regarding this mystery-

Eph.3:1-7 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.

Rom.11:25-27 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.


 This mystery of the Jews being cut off for an unknown and unspecified time (enter an imminent rapture) is for the Gentile gathering into the church which is the body of Christ (1 Cor.2:7, Eph.5:32, Col.1:26-7). (For those unfamiliar with gaps of time in the prophetic writings- read here.) Then Israel shall be saved and delivered according to Daniels prophecy as the final week of years concerning thy people and upon thy holy city. This will be an end of sin for Israel and Jerusalem and a finish to their transgression to reconcile them for their iniquity. Notice that it is not a general reconciliation made at the cross (after 69 weeks) but the particular application of his sacrifice upon the people of Israel (after 70 weeks). Christ has made reconciliation (Rom.5:10); it is our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement (v11). And we have the ministry of reconciliation (2 Cor.5:18-9), that is by preaching the blood of the cross. But people must believe on Christ (Jn. 3:16) to have access by faith into that grace (Rom.5:1-2); it is of faith that is might be by grace (Rom. 4:16). So, Israel will need to be brought to repentance that they might believe (Mt. 21:32, Ac.20:21). Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? (Rom.11:12) If the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? (Rom.11:15) The fulness (bringing in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy) and resurrection of the dead is connected with their conversion at the last (Dan.12:1-3, Jn.11:24, 6:39-40, 44, 54) after the time of Jacobs trouble (Jer.30:7, Deut.4:30) and the final 70th week.

 Consider these verses regarding the fulness of salvation to the nation of Israel, their restoration into their land and the hope of the whole earth:

Isaiah 2:1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Isaiah 60:21 Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified.

Isaiah 62:1,4 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth. Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzi-bah, and thy land Beulah: for the Lord delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.

Jeremiah 3:17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the Lord; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the Lord, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.

Jeremiah 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Isaiah 4:2-4 In that day shall the branch of the Lord be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel. And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem: [4] When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

Jeremiah 31:31-34 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: [32] Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: [33] But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. [34] And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Jeremiah 32:38-40 And they shall be my people, and I will be their God: [39] And I will give them one heart, and one way, that they may fear me for ever, for the good of them, and of their children after them: [40] And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.

Jeremiah 33:8 And I will cleanse them from all their iniquity, whereby they have sinned against me; and I will pardon all their iniquities, whereby they have sinned, and whereby they have transgressed against me.

Jeremiah 33:16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.

Jeremiah 50:20 In those days, and in that time, saith the Lord, the iniquity of Israel shall be sought for, and there shall be none; and the sins of Judah, and they shall not be found: for I will pardon them whom I reserve.

Ezekiel 36:25-29 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. [26] A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. [27] And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. [28] And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God. [29] I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you.

Ezekiel 37:14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

Ezekiel 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord God.

Zech. 12:9-10 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Zech. 13:1-2 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness. [2] And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land.

Isa.32:17-18 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. And my people shall dwell in a peaceable habitation, and in sure dwellings, and in quiet resting places;

2 Pet 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Ezekiel 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:


 We will see the conversion of the earth that the whole creation is groaning and travailing for (Rom.8:19-21). There will be peace for Jerusalem as the Prince of Peace takes his seat upon the throne of his father David in Jerusalem (Isa.9:6-7, Zech.12:9).

Luke 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.  (There was no Davidic throne at this time, nor has there been to this day.)

Ezek.43:7 And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile...

Matt. 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Jeremiah 3:17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the Lord; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the Lord, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.

Zech.14:16-17 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

Psa.2:6,12 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion… Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

Psa.48:1-2 Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised in the city of God, in the mountain of his holiness. Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King. 

Isaiah 35:9 No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there:

Isaiah 43:20 The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen.

Ezekiel 34:25 And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods.

Hosea 2:18 And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely.

Joel 2:22 Be not afraid, ye beasts of the field: for the pastures of the wilderness do spring, for the tree beareth her fruit, the fig tree and the vine do yield their strength.

Isaiah 11:6-9 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. [7] And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. [8] And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. [9] They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.

Isaiah 65:25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.


Sin will be driven out of Jerusalem- this has not happened yet, because the 70 weeks are not complete:

Psalm 10:16 The Lord is King for ever and ever: the heathen are perished out of his land.

Psalm 37:9-10 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the Lord, they shall inherit the earth. [10] For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.

Psalm 37:17 For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the Lord upholdeth the righteous.

Psalm 37:22 For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off.

Psalm 37:38 But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.

Psalm 44:2 How thou didst drive out the heathen with thy hand, and plantedst them; how thou didst afflict the people, and cast them out.

Psalm 75:10 All the horns of the wicked also will I cut off; but the horns of the righteous shall be exalted.

Psalm 101:8 I will early destroy all the wicked of the land; that I may cut off all wicked doers from the city of the Lord.

Psalm 104:35 Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the wicked be no more. Bless thou the Lord, O my soul. Praise ye the Lord.

Psalm 119:119 Thou puttest away all the wicked of the earth like dross: therefore I love thy testimonies.

Isaiah 35:8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.

Isaiah 52:1 Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.

Isaiah 60:18 Violence shall no more be heard in thy land, wasting nor destruction within thy borders; but thou shalt call thy walls Salvation, and thy gates Praise.

Ezekiel 20:37-38 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant: [38] And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

Joel 3:17 So shall ye know that I am the Lord your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more.

Nahum 1:15 Behold upon the mountains the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace! O Judah, keep thy solemn feasts, perform thy vows: for the wicked shall no more pass through thee; he is utterly cut off.

Zeph. 3:11 In that day shalt thou not be ashamed for all thy doings, wherein thou hast transgressed against me: for then I will take away out of the midst of thee them that rejoice in thy pride, and thou shalt no more be haughty because of my holy mountain.

Zech. 14:21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts.

Matthew 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;


The nations will come to Jerusalem to worship the Lord:

Isaiah 55:5 Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the Lord thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee.

Isaiah 60:3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.

Jeremiah 3:17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the Lord; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the Lord, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.

Micah 4:2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

Zech. 14:16-19 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. [17] And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. [18] And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. [19] This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.


God will perform his oath that he swore to Abraham. Israel will inherit the land forever:

Luke 1:67-75 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying, Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people, And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David; As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began: That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us; To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant; The oath which he sware to our father Abraham, That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear, In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

Gen.12:1 Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

Gen.13:14-17 And the Lord said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward: For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever. And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered. Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it; for I will give it unto thee.

Gen.15:18 In the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Gen.17:4-8 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee. And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee. And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

Gen.50:24 And Joseph said unto his brethren, I die: and God will surely visit you, and bring you out of this land unto the land which he sware to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.

Ex.6:8 And I will bring you in unto the land, concerning the which I did swear to give it to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob; and I will give it you for an heritage: I am the Lord.

Ex.32:13 Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and saidst unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit it for ever.

Deut.1:7-8 Turn you, and take your journey, and go to the mount of the Amorites, and unto all the places nigh thereunto, in the plain, in the hills, and in the vale, and in the south, and by the sea side, to the land of the Canaanites, and unto Lebanon, unto the great river, the river Euphrates. Behold, I have set the land before you: go in and possess the land which the Lord sware unto your fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give unto them and to their seed after them.

Deut.11:23-25 Then will the Lord drive out all these nations from before you, and ye shall possess greater nations and mightier than yourselves. Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours: from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be. There shall no man be able to stand before you: for the Lord your God shall lay the fear of you and the dread of you upon all the land that ye shall tread upon, as he hath said unto you.

Jos.1:3-4 Every place that the sole of your foot shall tread upon, that have I given unto you, as I said unto Moses. From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast.
 
Ezek.20:42 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I shall bring you into the land of Israel, into the country for the which I lifted up mine hand to give it to your fathers.

Jud.2:1 And an angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.

Part 2



Tuesday, March 5, 2019

Alex Jones discusses God at his Joe Rogan reuniting


 On his return to the Joe Rogan podcast (along with a hearty supply of marijuana, liquor, and profanity- staples of Rogan’s podcasts) after he says God told him to destroy Joe Rogan, Alex meanders with great confidence through multiple conspiracies with the sort of confidence one might expect from someone with firsthand involvement. The same confidence he exhibited in his indictment of Joe Rogan as a pusillanimous, DMT sodden, demon controlled sell out; and his subsequent call to war on Rogan. 

 Jones reveals that NASA is a break away government/civilization formed by former Nazis- yet much of his inside information is from NASA insiders (at 2:13).  Alex said his grandfather knew Wernher von Braun, and he has family in advanced research projects, including his dad (53:30). CIA (911 episode 41. min) and Military insiders also supply him with information about what is really going on- but the Military Industrial Complex is part of the shadow government. How can Alex know he is being given intelligence and not the victim of psy-ops? He says he could be killed for some of the things he knows (2:41) and the NSA and CIA has followed him his whole life and admittedly given him misinformation. Plus they have tried to buy him and his dad off (28 min). Nevertheless he has a huge internet and radio following and hasn't been killed yet.

Considering these things Jones ought to pull back from his brazen confidence in the news stories he sites (you can't trust the news entirely) and the intelligence he is given from insiders (which could be well crafted psychological operations- as we watch the 'deep state' leak information to the willing press year by year). Just as he has pulled back from his confidence that Rogan is public enemy #1, controlled by globalists and trying to pump and dump bitcoin on his gullible pot headed audience. The point is that Alex concludes some things hastily and then retreats. He that is hasty of spirit exalteth folly (Prv.14:29) and he that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him. (Prv.18:13)

 My point here is not to cast doubt upon everything Jones says- he may be correct on many conspiracies, I tend to give credence to some of them. My point is to torch and incinerate the foolish theological statements Jones made during this chemically induced consciousness streaming. Alex seems to have been spoiled by some form of Hegelian/Christian chimera; for example he states: 
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsrcYiTTNQU)
"We are God..." (3:08 min. of the main episode) referring to "that potential in yourself" (3:11 min.) "there is this giant consciousness that's God; swimming in a giant system of survival of the fittest that God has created to test God's self." The evil "is always trying to test God and infiltrate up into it to sabotage it".
Ezekiel chapter 1 is an alien story. (Enter Zecharia Sitchin and Erich von Däniken.)
3:20 "God knows everything except where God came from." 'God is advanced artificial intelligence'

 
 Now the sheer asininity of these ideas cannot be over stated. This is not the God of the bible or Christianity- Jones claims he's a Christian. He actually dawdles into contradiction saying God knows everything except where he came from, and then God is learning about himself, experiencing consciousness through us. God introduces evil and good and watches how it plays out, 'to test God's self'. Apparently God doesn't know himself or where he came from. Can we really have the hope of eternal life? Can god rationally have hope for his future? Obviously rationality doesn't emanate from his nature necessarily as his nature isn't necessary (he doesn't know where he came from). And if rationality was something he creates and projects onto creation (voluntarist problem) he can't have full confidence of his own continuity- since he doesn't know where he came from.

A god who does not know where he came from is not the God of the bible who declares 'I am that I am', who from everlasting to everlasting is God, and who inhabits eternity. (Ex.3:14, Ps.90:2, Isa.57:15) Neither can he declare "I am the LORD, I change not" (Mal.3:6) for the same forces that brought him into existence might very well blot him out. This is not a god who can found a reliable epistemology. "before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour." Isa.43:10-11 "Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." Isa.44:6 "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me" Isa.45:5

 A god who is learning of himself through us learning about him is a finite god who eventually through the process of time will know himself completely. This god is subject to time which he didn't create if he began to exist unwittingly. This is not the God of scripture of whom it is stated "Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite". Psa.147:5 But if it is an infinite god who is ever learning about himself he will never come to knowledge of the truth about himself. Either way it is not a God who can found the basis for rationality. Neither can this be the God of scripture who knows himself exhaustively. "for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God." "even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God." 1 Cor.2:10-11 "he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit" Rom.8:27
 As Christians we must not believe popular news personalities like we believe the bible and act in response. Someone espousing this heretical view of God is not being led by the Spirit of truth and while they may be correct on some things are being deceived and controlled by lying spirits (1 Jn.2:27, Eph.2:2, 1 Cor.2:12-15). Prove all things and hold fast that which is good. 1 Thes. 5:21